===== page 1 ===== A-y-dow-ah-cumig-o-giway Q. And the mother was O-muck-luck-ke-de-moyean? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you know them? A. Yes, sir. Q. And Keh-ah-we-dus? A. They were man and wife. Q. Were they mixed blood Indians? A. No, sir. Q. Were they full blood Indians? A. Yes, sir, they were full blood Indians. Q. Did you know Mah-zawd? A. Yes. Q. Was he a full blood or a mixed blood? A. No, sir, he was the son of Ah-sho-gun. Cross-examination by Mr. Van Meter: Question: Did you know Mayn-way-way-binais? Answer: No, sir. Q. Did you know Bus-ay-gosh? A. I know him, I saw him. Q. Where did you see him? A. Here, at White Earth, and at Leech Lake. Q. Is he alive now? A. No, sir, he is not alive now. Q. About how long ago did he die? 65. ===== page 2 ===== A. I would not know. Q. You said that Buz-ay-gosh was a full blood Indian? A. Yes, sir. Q. How did you know him to be a full blood? A. He was at Leech Lake as a son-in-law. Q. As a son-in-law of whom? A. Che-ah-quod-o-quay was the name of the mother of On- dway-way-aush. Q. Do you know Buz-ay-gosh's father? A. No, sir. Q. Did you know Buz-ay-gosh's mother? A. No, sir, he came there alone. Q. Then you don't know whether Buz-ay-gosh's father or mother was a mixed blood or a full blood, do you? A. No. Q. What do you call a full blood Indian? A. They and his wife, and Ah-quah-do-quay, the old lady, they are dead. Q. Yes. Now this is the question. What do you call a full- blooded Indian? A. I just call him what he looks like, but of course I could not tell what is in his body. He looks like a full-blood Indian. Q. Then, as I understand you to say, he looked like a full blood, and that is the reason you say he was a full-blood. 66. ===== page 3 ===== A. Yes, they were Indians. T here must be some one here to know them. Q. The only reason you say he is a full blood is that he looked like an Indian? A. I told you he is not alive -- the one you ask me. Q. Yes, but you said that Buzz-ay-gosh was a full-blood when he was alive? A. Yes, sir. Q. The only reason you say he is a full-blood was because he looked like it? A. Yes, sir, because he looked like it. Q. Now, what do you call a mixed blood? A. I never saw a mixed blood, from the time I lived at Leech Lake until I lived clear up here. I never saw a mixed blood. Q. Then you don't know what a mixed blood is? A. I don't know them. Q. Don't know what? Do you know what a mixed blood is? A. I don't know whom you call. Q. What is a mixed blood? What is any mixed blood? A. I wouldn't know. Q. You don't know then what is a mixed blood? A. I don't know how he looks. Q. Did you have some land on the reservation here? A. Yes, I have it. 67. ===== page 4 ===== Q. Have you got it, or did you sell it? A. I have it, I did not sell it. Q. You did not sign it away by signing any papers? A. While I was working in the cornfield, or making corn, a party came there carrying around a paper to have it signed. Q. Did you sign it? A. Yes. Q. Did you get some money when you signed the paper? A. I was asked to sign it. I was made to do that. I was supposed to sell one of my eighty lots. I have not seen the one who made me sign the paper. Q. Did the man give you some money? A. No, sir. Q. Did he give you any paper money? A. No, sir. Q. You were not given any money at all? A. No, I would not have done that - I was urged a long time by that man. Q. By a white man? A. No, my son. Q. Who is your son? A. Ah-win-e-wah-cumig. Q. Do you know May-zhuck-e-binais? A. You have asked me quite often and I have said I don't know him. ===== page 5 ===== Q. You say you know Pe-daus-e-quah? A. Yes, I told you. Q. And you know also Pe-daus-e-quah's wife, you say, Te- bish-co-yquush-e-quay? A. Yes, sir. Q. And you say both of those parties were full bloods? A. Why not? I have told you once. One is dead. Q. They were Indians? A. Yes, sir. Q. But I am asking about full-bloods. Were they full blood Indians? A. I was talking about nothing but the Indians - the ones I am talking about. Q. Because they were Indians they were full-bloods? A. Yes. Q. Did you know Tay-dow-cumig-ge-shig, or Red Cloud? A. Well, I wouldn't forget him. How would I forget? Q. Did you testify that he was a full blood? A. Yes, sir. Q. Where did you know him? A. In the country they lived in - at White Earth. Mis- quah-nah-quod was the father. Q. You know Mis-quah-nah-quod, or Joseph Black? A. Yes, sir, he was here. He lived here. He was, he had a garden here. 69. ===== page 6 ===== Q. Was he a full blood or a mixed-blood Indian? A. He was an Indian. Q. What do you mean by an "Indian," - a mixed blood may be an Indian. A. It must be so. Q. You don't know - you don't know whether he was a mixed blood or a full blood? A. He is dead long ago. I don't know exactly what he was. You can go dig him out of his grave, and then you can find out. Q. Who told you to say this to me about digging the grave? A. I just say that for fun. Q. Has anybody talked with you about these families, whether they were full bloods or not? Didn't you and the Indians talk about -- A. No, not at all. What I have said came from my own memory. Q. Then you and the other Indians didn't talk about them in council in the last few days? A. No, sir, I never heard anyone to say anything about it. Mr. Van Meter: That's all.